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bitorrent
01-10-2006, 03:44 PM
I'm thinking of switching out my current video card BFG Geforce 6200 for a better one. However, my friend recommended to get ATI but I've always sticked with nVidia products. I'm just wondering if there is anybody who has positive experience from ATI or is it just personal preference?

Thorin
01-10-2006, 03:49 PM
I'm just wondering if there is anybody who has positive experience from AGP or is it just personal preference?
AGP is not a brand, it's an interface. There are GeForce cards that are AGP.

BloodyBlade
01-10-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm thinking of switching out my current video card BFG Geforce 6200 for a better one. However, my friend recommended to get AGP but I've always sticked with Geforge products. I'm just wondering if there is anybody who has positive experience from AGP or is it just personal preference?It's funny how much you don't know.

AGP is the interface (the way it plugs into the motherboard), not a company. There are 3 popular types, PCI, AGP, and PCI-Express. PCI-Express is the fastest at 8.0gb/s effective bandwidth, where AGP is only around 4gb/s. And PCI is way too slow for any modern video card.

The company is nVidia, not GeForce. Nvidia makes the GeForce cards, but they also have the Quadros (older) and one or two others. The two best-known companies in video cards right now are ATi and nVidia.

Please do more research before you buy a new video card. You will end up getting the wrong kind and wasting $100+.

Also, you spelled BitTorrent wrong in your username.

Otaku
01-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Lol I know, I'm like wtf is he thinking...anyways if you mean ATI vs. nVidia then get nVidia...

BloodyBlade
01-10-2006, 03:56 PM
Lol I know, I'm like wtf is he thinking...anyways if you mean ATI vs. nVidia then get nVidia...ATi has its good products too. I think you should present some positives and negatives about each company and let him choose for himself.

bitorrent
01-10-2006, 04:02 PM
lol, sorry i worded that incorrectly. For a sec there, I confused AGP with ATI Radeon. And when I referred to Geforce I was referring to nVidia. Thanks for the correction. I edited it.

And I wasn't aiming for the P2P BitTorrent.

gamepin126
01-10-2006, 04:03 PM
ATI cards are horrible unless you get optimized drivers.

BloodyBlade
01-10-2006, 04:05 PM
What were you aiming for? Torrent with the prefix bi- meaning two?

It depends on the card. Sometimes you can find a better deal with ATi than nVidia and other times it is vice versa. I personally prefer nVidia. What is your budget? I could show you a few cards that would be nice.

EDIT: Gaypoon: optimized drivers like what? My dad is buying an ATi card (even though I suggested nVidia...) for the home computer and I want it to run as best as it can so I can kick his ass in LAN games.

bitorrent
01-10-2006, 04:09 PM
On previous forums, my username was QuadTorrent so i used Bi instead this time. So yea.

My budget's around 250 or should I wait for Windows Vista to come out and buy a new computer then.

BloodyBlade
01-10-2006, 07:45 PM
Why wait? Doesn't really make a difference.

I am going to assume your video card interface is PCIe. If you want to cough up an extra $50, you should get the 7800GT (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130247). Or the 6800GS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150118) if you are looking for a cheaper card, but the 6800GS still performs like a beast.

Otaku
01-10-2006, 08:38 PM
nVidia > ATi at video.
nVidia > ATi at games.
nVidia SLI > ATi Crossfire...Crossfire is ugly as hell and while you can use it with different cards, it shuts down the more powerful card's extra pipelines...

BloodyBlade
01-10-2006, 08:44 PM
nVidia > ATi at video.
nVidia > ATi at games.Do you have an reasons (with proof)? If no, shut the hell up.

gamepin126
01-10-2006, 09:28 PM
NVidia is way better out of the box, ATI is good if you get 3rd party drivers. Stock ones are sheit.

707
01-11-2006, 03:26 AM
Ive always liked nVIDIA.

NickF
01-11-2006, 01:22 PM
Do you have an reasons (with proof)? If no, shut the hell up.
Lol post at guru3d more, you'll learn.
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/302/
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/285/
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/308/
The NVIDIA cards beat all there ATI competitors in the bulk of there games. One thing however, the 6800 GS is a 12 piped card and is competing with a 16 piped card in the 3rd link, but if unlocked/overclocked (it only unlocks if its agp, but overclocks like crazy because its 110nm vs the 6800 gt which as 130nm).The 6800GS overclocked gets a much greater edge on an overclocked X1800 XL

XCreepingDeathX
01-11-2006, 01:47 PM
Ive always liked nVIDIA.
Yeah, I have a geforce 5700 and it gets the job done.

BloodyBlade
01-11-2006, 03:01 PM
']Lol post at guru3d more, you'll learn.
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/302/
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/285/
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/308/
The NVIDIA cards beat all there ATI competitors in the bulk of there games. One thing however, the 6800 GS is a 12 piped card and is competing with a 16 piped card in the 3rd link, but if unlocked/overclocked (it only unlocks if its agp, but overclocks like crazy because its 110nm vs the 6800 gt which as 130nm).The 6800GS overclocked gets a much greater edge on an overclocked X1800 XLYou aren't even factoring price. On a price scale, you pretty much get the same power for the same amount with both ATi and nVidia if you shop around. Ofcourse better deals will pop up, but it is pretty even.

Oh, and the 6800GS has 16 pipes, not 12.

EDIT: The 5700 won't get the job done for much longer. I love my overclocked 6600GT though.

Thorin
01-11-2006, 03:06 PM
']Lol post at guru3d more, you'll learn.
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/302/
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/285/
http://guru3d.com/article/Videocards/308/
One thing however, the 6800 GS is a 12 piped card and is competing with a 16 piped card in the 3rd link...
The X1600XT has 12 pipelines, not 16.

']The 6800GS overclocked gets a much greater edge on an overclocked X1800 XL
In some cases, it's better than the X800XL, not the X1800XL. However, the X800XL still manages to get more FPS in HL2 and SC: CT than the 6800GS.

An overclocked X1800XL (non Sapphire) can reach X1800XT performance.

Otaku
01-11-2006, 03:08 PM
I just have the MaximumPC nVidia vs. ATi showdown...

Thorin
01-11-2006, 03:25 PM
Oh, and the 6800GS has 16 pipes, not 12.


The PCI-E 6800GS is a NV42 core, and only has 12 pipes (the missing 4 pipes are physically removed). The 6800GT/Ultra are NV45 cores, and have 16 pipes.

The AGP 6800GS can have its 4 pipes unlocked, as it is the same core as the 6800NU (NV40).

bitorrent
01-11-2006, 03:39 PM
Thanks all, but I went for the XFX Geforce 6800 GS Bloody recommended. Found a good deal on eBay. Unopened box too.