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NickF
09-14-2004, 02:42 PM
its a some what modified '89 buick riveara its got duals (camero muffler), 16 in rims new tires, new grill, k & n air filter and few other things i'll get motor after... but heres a few pics of it
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00331.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00332.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00333.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00334.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00335.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00336.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00337.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00338.JPG

Hers some pics of my house, my yard ect
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00339.JPG

jonthepyro
09-14-2004, 02:47 PM
my mitsubishi 3000 gt could pwn that in racing anyday :D

NickF
09-14-2004, 02:51 PM
its got the same motor as a grandnation which beat corvettes in its day only it doesn;t got a super in it

Fish Beans
09-14-2004, 03:01 PM
my 97 Nissan XE pwns j00 f00s!!11!!

parwarn
09-14-2004, 03:10 PM
Nice house lol
btw thx for the liscene plate number maybe u should blank that

AgentGOD
09-14-2004, 03:30 PM
w00t, let's go report him! and say he has NOS , and he uses it. Just kiddin man.

NickF
09-14-2004, 03:59 PM
Nice house lol
btw thx for the liscene plate number maybe u should blank that
whoooops :)

w00t, let's go report him! and say he has NOS , and he uses it. Just kiddin man.
What NOS where lol really tho its not mine yet....
and fush beans howmany cylandres is it? a high end 4 i bet mines a high end 6 with 200hp owned

jonthepyro
09-14-2004, 04:00 PM
agent is that selection or is that sig fake

NickF
09-14-2004, 04:14 PM
http://www.bwhacks.com/newercar/100_0230.jpg
redrums car, saving him the trouble of bragging lol

Caluka
09-14-2004, 04:32 PM
LMAO

parwarn
09-14-2004, 04:37 PM
LOL redrums car is nice lol

Kupo?
09-14-2004, 05:41 PM
http://www.bwhacks.com/newercar/100_0230.jpg
redrums car, saving him the trouble of bragging lol
Hmm. I wonder what happened to his old one... :whistle:

c0ke
09-14-2004, 06:47 PM
Ill tell you, it has SOMETHING to do with an accident... I have better pics of it, if he lets me post em or w/e. Lol I can read his license plate number. I know you like them rims, those are the ones I have.

Sandman
09-14-2004, 06:51 PM
its got the same motor as a grandnation which beat corvettes in its day only it doesn;t got a super in it

GN engines don't need a "super" when they come turbocharged stock. Learn something about the car you drive and don't ever blasphemize it like that again. >:[

Fish Beans
09-14-2004, 06:52 PM
and fush beans howmany cylandres is it? a high end 4 i bet mines a high end 6 with 200hp owned
It's a 4 cylander manual transmission. Gets up to about 105 with a good tail wind and going downhill.

el-camino-ss
09-14-2004, 07:38 PM
when I finally save money I'm ether buyin a 1970 el camino ss or a camaro ss...

BloodyBlade
09-14-2004, 08:01 PM
Rich mother fuckers.

Too bad im poor.

Sandman
09-14-2004, 08:42 PM
mines a high end 6 with 200hp owned

Argh, I just saw this. Goddammit, Nick. You don't deserve that car. It should be a crime letting a badass engine like an LC2 go to someone who won't appreciate it. Sell it to me. I'll give that setupd a good home in my Camaro. :)

Fish Beans
09-15-2004, 12:00 AM
Rich mother fuckers.

Too bad im poor.
Rich? My truck was 5,000$.

l)ark.Raj
09-15-2004, 04:57 AM
its got the same motor as a grandnation which beat corvettes in its day only it doesn;t got a super in it

hey my dad use to have one exactly like that!

SubZero
09-15-2004, 05:06 AM
I'm in love with Sandman's car. But then, I have the spare keys to 2 Evo8's and an 2003 STi, so I not complaining.. lol

NickF
09-15-2004, 11:50 AM
"yawn"
528i Older
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00194.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00196.JPG
****NEWER****
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00361.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00362.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00363.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00364.JPG
328i
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00193.JPG
http://www.starshit.net/car/DSC00195.JPG
my dads cars and garage...owned u all

GN engines don't need a "super" when they come turbocharged stock. Learn something about the car you drive and don't ever blasphemize it like that again. >:
wtf are u talking about read my post again
its got the same motor WITHOUT the super actualy u corrected me in saying turbo...
BTW the beamers have straght 6's in um there german so they fly so ez even tho they have like 150hp
*Edit sorry abou newer pics someone edited resolution on my camera

Sandman
09-15-2004, 12:26 PM
Yeah, you got pictures of cars that you don't own. I can show you pictures of cars my rich uncle owns, or my richer boss. Does that mean I own you?

I'd take a GN or the Jap Evo8 over those, any day. Every upper-middle class fucker around has a BMW. And trust me, they're not that quick. I rape M3s all the time. They're not even worth the gas. I get more of a challenge from an STi with a four banger.

Do you mean it's missing the turbo and it needs one, or someone just decided not to have it on? In the latter case, the LC2 was specifically designed to be turbocharged. Take the turbo off and it's a piece of shit. Just out of curiosity one day I disconnected my intercooler pipe and attached 2.5"-4" connector to my throttle body, and connected a 4" pipe elbow and a 9"x4" K&N cone filter. It ran alright, but slow as a motherfucker. Sell it to me and I'll put a nice turbo on it. :)

NickF
09-15-2004, 12:30 PM
Yeah, you got pictures of cars that you don't own. I can show you pictures of cars my rich uncle owns, or my richer boss. Does that mean I own you?

I'd take a GN or the Jap Evo8 over those, any day. Every upper-middle class fucker around has a BMW. And trust me, they're not that quick. I rape M3s all the time. They're not even worth the gas. I get more of a challenge from an STi with a four banger.

Do you mean it's missing the turbo and it needs one, or someone just decided not to have it on? In the latter case, the LC2 was specifically designed to be turbocharged. Take the turbo off and it's a piece of shit. Just out of curiosity one day I disconnected my intercooler pipe and attached 2.5"-4" connector to my throttle body, and connected a 4" pipe elbow and a 9"x4" K&N cone filter. It ran alright, but slow as a motherfucker. Sell it to me and I'll put a nice turbo on it.
wat the fuck o u mean dont own its my parents car and what i mean is the motor in a grandnational is the same only they put a chip and a turbo in it. mines just the 3.0 liter v6 with no turbo no chip

Sandman
09-15-2004, 12:41 PM
Yeah, they're your parents' cars, meaning they're not yours. I live with my grandmother, but I don't say I own a Chevy Equinox. It's hers, not mine.

Excuse me if I don't interpret this correctly. I'm having a hard time understand what you're saying since I don't speak much beyond English, but I'm going to take a stab at it.

You're saying the motor is a Grand National motor, meaning it's a 3.8 liter SFI turbocharged LC2, and you have the motor, but not the turbo. Right?

NickF
09-15-2004, 12:46 PM
yes right

Sandman
09-15-2004, 12:55 PM
That thing's gotta be a slug then. :( Slap on a TE-44, Terry Houston 3" downpipe, 50# MSD injectors, Walbro 340 fuel pump and a custom chip. It'll fly then, costing you about $1300 plus labor. Not a bad cost considering you'd be putting it into the 12s if it has the GN tranny. Or leave it like that if you enjoy going slow. But I really think you should sell it to me. 8)

jonthepyro
09-15-2004, 01:30 PM
i have a cadillac escalade but its my parents..
sandman did u get hit by hurricane since u live in central FL

dontnoshit
09-15-2004, 04:48 PM
I have a 1992 Chevy Lumina the motor is a V6 3.1 with a 185hp I have hit 130 in it but then got stoped which sucked!! I no thats not a fast car but it sounds great i just finished puting almost $700 into the stereo and it is GREAT!!!

rum
09-15-2004, 08:53 PM
http://www.bwhacks.com/newercar/100_0245.jpg
http://www.bwhacks.com/newercar/100_0246.jpg

Putting eibach prokit on it this friday.

SubZero
09-15-2004, 11:43 PM
mmmmm. mazda 3. Why didn't you get the red one? haha.

Like Sandman said, I'd take my friend's Evo8's or STi instead. I'd rather a jap pocket rocket than a BMW anyday. In fact, I actually managed to flip a 3 series taking a turn with 2 people in the back once... car was upside down, but no one was hurt when we got out. Got the car scrapped after that. The handling of the BMW 3 series really sucks ball.

NAATYE
09-16-2004, 05:49 AM
mmmmm. mazda 3. Why didn't you get the red one? haha.

Like Sandman said, I'd take my friend's Evo8's or STi instead. I'd rather a jap pocket rocket than a BMW anyday. In fact, I actually managed to flip a 3 series taking a turn with 2 people in the back once... car was upside down, but no one was hurt when we got out. Got the car scrapped after that. The handling of the BMW 3 series really sucks ball.

Apparently you suck at driving... the e36 maybe, but to flip an e46 is really difficult.

lol, everybody forgets that BMW's aren't drag cars or tracks cars. What they are is a great mix of the two, that comes with many comforts and conviences. How many cars do you know of with a 3.2l I6 that puts out 333hp N/A, and can hold it own fairly well on a track, while still providing all the comforts of a luxury car.

But since so many people are into drag racing, how about lowering the compression of BMW's and then throwing on a super/turbo and see what happens... I have seen a few fairly stock M3's with 600+ hp (9:1 compression running 15psi). While the M's are pretty rare, I have seen alot supercharged 330's that are putting 325+ rwhp, which last time I checked is sitting in Z06 range (give or take). But in the end, american muscle will rape it, and many will outhandle it.

But none can compete with this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4891758/


Bottom line, BMW's are very refined machines that are good all around, but not great at anything.

SubZero
09-16-2004, 05:54 AM
lol. It was 4.40 in the morning! I was racing my friend's civic. He swirved into my lane at the bend, and I swung out to avoid him, which made me hit the curb and flip. I can still remember it quite clearly... Those were the days... Haha

NAATYE
09-16-2004, 06:07 AM
very nice.... e46 or e36? Any injuries?

Sandman
09-16-2004, 06:52 AM
lol, everybody forgets that BMW's aren't drag cars or tracks cars.

I was saying that aren't that quick because Nick was insinuating otherwise. If I had a BMW I wouldn't have it to race. I'd have it to pick up chicks and tell them I'm some rich doctor or something.

I've seen some quick M3s, built by wealthy guys who bought it because they thought it was fast and got tired of getting spanked on the street. :) For the cost of modding them I think I'd rather get something that's already fast if I were buying the car based on performance. I see their quickness as just an added bonus to the car's cool factor, which can be calculated thusly:

c = p+q, when p = a(b+s)

c - cool factor
p - pimposity
q - quickness
a - how much ass it will get you
b - bling factor
s - how smokin' the ride looks

Edit:

Actually, I think it'd be best as c = 0.5(p+q) so it works with a 1-10 scale.

So:

c = .5(p+q), when p = a(b+s)

First, we need real values. A scale of 1-10 works well.

For quickness, let's go with quarter mile times, where 10 = 10 seconds or better, 9 = 11s, 8 = 12s, and so-on.

For the amount of ass you pick up, we might have to split that into it's own formula. So, a = r/e. That's the amount of ass equals the real number of women you've been able to pick up with the car divided by how many you thought you'd be able to get. This is going to end up fucking me over in the end.

For bling factor, it's not so much what you payed for the car, but rather how expensive it looks. I'd give an M3 a 7, and my car a 5. It would be 4, but I have a trick paint job and some chrome. :)

How smokin' the ride looks is hard to put a value to, but on a scale of 1 to 10, I give my car an 8. It looks pretty damn good to me.

Now I'll figure up my car's cool factor.



c = .5(p+8)

p = a(5+8)

a = 0/1.2 million

p = 0

c = 4


Either my car isn't nearly as cool as I thought it was, or my formula needs to some tweaking. If only girls knew what a GN was. :(

SubZero
09-16-2004, 08:13 PM
very nice.... e46 or e36? Any injuries?

Well, 1 of my friends at the back was complaining about minor back pains a few days after the accident... turned out to be nothing.. lol

Sandman, try slapping a ferrari logo over your GN logo and see if the ladies can tell the difference. But then again, you might just attract the really dumb ones

NickF
09-18-2004, 09:25 PM
i never said they were for racing i said they were quick as in for the road and subzero the 3 is like on fucking rails its soo ez to steer ur prolly just not used to german luxery and in case u didn't no th BMW M5 has a v12 in it have fun beating that in a race BMW also made the motor for the mclaren http://bmwworld.com/models/mclaren.htm
For all u lazy people
Developed by McLaren cars LTD, a subsidiary of the McLaren Formula One Team, the McLaren F1 GTR is the fastest, most powerful and most expensive production car in the world.

The McLaren is powered by a BMW 6.1 Liter V12 engine producing 627 hp with a 0-60 mph time of 3.1 seconds and a top speed of 230-240 mph.

The original McLaren F1 was started in 1991 and 64 cars were made. The LM model was introduced in 1993 with 5 cars built. The GT model had 3 cars. Finally, in 1995, the GTR was introduced, and over the next 3 years, 28 cars were built.

Unfortunately, production stopped in May 1998 after only 100 cars were built.

The engine
http://bmwworld.com/engines/12cyl.htm
Model BMW S70/2
Type 6.1 liter, 48 valve V-12 with aluminum block and heads, 627 bhp
Bore and stroke 3.38 x 3.41 in (86 x 87 mm)
Displacement 370 cubic in, 6064 cc
Compression ratio 10.5:1
Engine control system Bosch Motronic with port fuel injection
Emissions controls 3-way catalytic converter feedback fuel-air-ratio control auxiliary air pump
Valve gear Chain-driven double overhead cams, 4 valves per cylinder, hydraulic lifters, variable intake timing
Power (SAE net) 618 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Torque (SAE net) 479 ft-lb @ 4000 rpm
Redline 7500 rpm

Sandman
09-20-2004, 05:25 AM
in case u didn't no th BMW M5 has a v12 in it have fun beating that in a race

If I ever see one I will. :)
[email protected] according to Car and Driver for the 2002 BMW M5 RMS Superfast.

How many cylinders a car has is nigh irrelevant to how fast it is. According to your logic, a stock 86 Jaguar XJ12 would blow my doors off. Not going to happen. The M5 is very quick for a four-door luxury sedan. It's also expensive as fuck. But, having a supercharged v12 doesn't necessarily mean it can't be beaten by a car with less cylinders. There are a lot of other factors involved.

Dragan
09-20-2004, 12:17 PM
Look all of u who say that u got a car that would own all r prolly lying, if u wana prove that ur not then show us a pic, untill then dont brag, and now ppl will say ohh u prolly got a shitty car, well i dont drive but wen i do im gona get a regular car ,il b able 2 drive in just a bit over a year.

http://www.danasoft.com/sig/Dragan\\sHackSIgn.jpg

Sandman
09-20-2004, 12:26 PM
Yeah, I bet Fish Beans is lying about having a Nissan XE. If you ask him for a pic he'll probably cut it out of a truck magazine. What a poseur.

Dragan
09-20-2004, 12:30 PM
Sandman, try slapping a ferrari logo over your GN logo and see if the ladies can tell the difference. But then again, you might just attract the really dumb ones

AHAHHAHAHA Sub Zero thats funyy as hell, i had a go kart wen i was young n i printed of a porche sign n duck taped it on, lol what would u xpect i was 10 LOL it fell of lol

Dr. Silence
09-20-2004, 02:27 PM
When i turn 21 ill propoby have enough money for a Skyline r32 gtr =) cant wait !!!

NickF
09-20-2004, 02:53 PM
If I ever see one I will.
[email protected] according to Car and Driver for the 2002 BMW M5 RMS Superfast.

How many cylinders a car has is nigh irrelevant to how fast it is. According to your logic, a stock 86 Jaguar XJ12 would blow my doors off. Not going to happen. The M5 is very quick for a four-door luxury sedan. It's also expensive as fuck. But, having a supercharged v12 doesn't necessarily mean it can't be beaten by a car with less cylinders. There are a lot of other factors involved.
its fast enough for a street car and the amout of cylanders is a BIG factor but like you pointed out not the only one and also what are u driving that your soo cocky and can pwn us all

Sandman
09-21-2004, 05:26 AM
I love it when someone who knows fuck all about cars tries to argue with me. No, it's not a big factor, especially when talking about forced induction versus natural aspiration, not to mention carburetion versus fuel injection, and most certainly not when you're talking about being "fast enough for a street car." It doesn't matter until you get into the really fast ones. A Geo Metro is fast enough for a street car. I love how your tune changes from "have fun beating that in a race" to "its fast enough for a street car." High 12s is not slow, and if you throw an upgraded pulley on it for higher boost you'd probably get it knocking on the 11s. But having a v12 doesn't mean shit. That's the point I was making.


what are u driving that your soo cocky and can pwn us all

Gee, dunno.


If only girls knew what a GN was.

Sandman, try slapping a ferrari logo over your GN logo and see if the ladies can tell the difference.
Avatar also gives it away.

Dr. Silence
09-21-2004, 05:56 AM
A 70 thousand doller skyline can run 7 seconds, and its street legalized with NX, they have other creations at www.iceperformance.com
oh and forced induction are top quality
one more thing TURBO's OWN super chargers.
done and done.

NickF
09-24-2004, 07:36 AM
you'de need a shit load to actualy get ur peice of shit L4 to get anywhere close to five hunderd horse of the M5 STOCK and a suped up m5 u cant even touch it.

bulk_4me
09-24-2004, 08:03 AM
I had a Cirrus 2004 LXi Turbo, but know I am stuck back into my Dodge Stratus 2000.

Sandman
09-24-2004, 08:05 AM
you'de need a shit load to actualy get ur peice of shit L4 to get anywhere close to five hunderd horse of the M5 STOCK and a suped up m5 u cant even touch it.
What the fuck are you talking about? Who has an "L4" and where the hell did that come from?

I was looking at some BMW specs and times, and I can't find one with a V12 in it. I see V8s and V10s but no V12s. Not sure what the RMS has, but I'm guessing a supercharged 5 liter. You'd figure a BMW fanboy such as yourself would know something about it.

Edit:
Instead of waiting for you to reply I'm going to assume you're talking about my car, though I have no fucking clue why you're calling it an "L4." If you mean I4 (inline four), it's a V6. If you mean four liter, it's a 3.8. If you mean the name of the engine, it's an LC2. All of this has been covered. Reading obviously isn't something you excel at.

That being said, the M5 is a very nice car and is very quick for a four-door sedan, but saying a GN won't be able to touch it in a race is just fucking stupid (understandable coming from you). Shitload of money to reach 500whp? Depends on how much money you think a shitload is. I think the price tag on the M5 is a shitload of money. Wanna see what a GN can do with how much an M5 costs? Here ya go:

http://sandman.cdeath.net/shiat/hartline1.wmv
http://sandman.cdeath.net/shiat/hartline2.avi

That's Cal Hartline's 87 GN. He owns Hartline Performance in Melbourne, FL.

941 hp
fastest run was 8.57 @ 159mph with a 1.33 60 foot
V6 Buick Stage 2 On-Center Block
single turbo (PT-88-TSE 3bolt)
Roughly $120k (including the initial cost of the car)

He could have made it go faster for cheaper, but he also put a lot of money into the suspension and chassis. Yup, that 8-second car is street-driven. A little tweaking and it's even prepared for auto-cross.

So, about being "fast enough for a street car?"

Go practice for your driver's license test, kiddo.

Poon
09-24-2004, 06:33 PM
thats pretty sweet but its not my type.

Apocolipse535
10-04-2004, 11:11 AM
Hey Is anyone here right now

Apocolipse535
10-04-2004, 11:12 AM
why does it say athiest under my name i believ in god im gonna try to fix that right now

Apocolipse535
10-04-2004, 11:16 AM
im still a new member but i wanna become a hack maker i make mods and conversions well i use arsenal 3 and retrogrp and i have all the dlls out there for damnation i think.
well if anyone Needs Help Oh Can Help Me Out Message Me.

Fish Beans
10-04-2004, 11:44 AM
You're new, so I'm going to cut you some slack. Apparently you did not read the forum rules, so I'll give you the basics here.

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