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    Assisted Suicide

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    I thought this was an interesting topic. I didn't watch the whole video (as I'm not in the right state of mind right now), but from what I saw it seems an athlete committed assisted suicide due to his paralysis.

    I'm curious how everyone else thinks about assisted suicide? Should it be allowed for people who are mentally ill or physically impaired?
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    If the person is in serious pain and provides the care taker with permission (contract or having witnesses over hear their plea), then I believe it should be morally acceptable.
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    Killing yourself affects more people than just the person dieing.
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    I never understood why suicide was illegal, what are they gonna do, throw your corpse in jail?

    If someone has a disease and its terminal, or if they suffer from chronic pain that can not be managed, or they are paralized then yes I believe they have the right to end their life, through suicide, assisted or not. Why should someone have to live in suffering just so their grand kids / kids / whoever can have them around for another 3 months? That is cruel. If a person wants to die, then ****ing let them, its their own choice and their own right.

    Everyone dies, it's a fact everyone needs to get over, I see absolutely no problem with someone picking their time to go.

    That it effects more than just you is a bull**** answer and a cowards answer.
    It is your life, if someone has invested themselves into your life and gotten attached to you that's their own fault, you didn't force them too. People need to learn that no matter what they're gonna lose everything they love most. It doesn't matter if it's a day from now or a year from now or even 50 years, you're always gonna lose everything that you hold near and dear.
    Get over it, grow up, and act like a ****ing mature adult. Quit you're crying, you're doing the person a favor.

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    people own their life, they have the right to do with it what they will.

    our rights should be protected not our lives.

    if a person doesnt own their life, what do they own?

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    I am all for D.A.S. whether or not you have a debilitating condition. If some one wants to end their life, that is their decision. If they really want to die they will just off themselves anyways if no doctor will do it for them. It is obvious all the laws against "death with diginity" are influenced by religous ideals and therefore have no validity in the real world as there is supposed be a seperation of church and state.
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    Suicide happens, that won't change. It's rather easy to take one's own life. Assisted suicide is bad because, as KC said, it affects more people than just the one dying. America needs to re-learn how to appreciate life, rather than just bitch and moan about everything. Life is beautiful, no matter how hard it may be. People with serious chemical imbalances (depression) can't see that, but that doesn't mean we should help them kill themselves.

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    well if your ok with taking away the most important right to any person, fine then. let them die in an extremly painful way due to the lack of a medical proffesional to ease their passing. Its far more disrupting if you do it yourself, then get help from a medical proffesional.

    Your right to live and die how you choose is the most basic right of a person. Sure it'd be better if they stopped pissing and moaning about life, but forcing them to live on when they clearly don't want to is just plain stupid.

    That should be the formost right any person should have. Its the basic idea behind freedom. Liveing AND dieing how you choose.

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    You obviously don't understand how rights work. You have them until they infringe upon someone else's. The selfish act of suicide usually passes debt onto family members, or leaves them to deal with severe emotional stress. People who kill themselves are just weak and selfish.

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    debt should not have the ability to pass onto relatives, because a relative is not the person themself, and is not responsible for them.

    people who kill themselves due to depression ARE weak emotionally, i agree with that.

    People should stop being selfish. They should not think that other peoples lives are theirs. People have the right to choose how they live their life. Stop being selfish, stop telling them how to live their lives.

    I think that it isn't the suicidal person that's being selfish, its the people who think they can tell someone how to live their lives, and how to die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degausser View Post
    You obviously don't understand how rights work. You have them until they infringe upon someone else's. The selfish act of suicide usually passes debt onto family members, or leaves them to deal with severe emotional stress. People who kill themselves are just weak and selfish.
    Preventing infringement of rights is done by protecting those rights, not by stripping away someone else's. Vandalism infringes on the rights of property owners, but the solution is not to outlaw spray paint. Have police protect that property while you combat the root causes of petty crime. If suicides leave an unfair burden on their loved ones, change debt inheritance laws and then focus on making society less miserable.
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    People who can't accept another's unwillingness to live are just as weak and selfish; it's moot to the point. Where do you get off imposing your will on another human being? The law hasn't changed because the prospect of a loved one having the free right to end their life is terrifying to people. But they should, for more than just mortal rights reasons too. If I (somehow) couldn't commit suicide due to legal interference, I'd be damn quick to snag the death penalty for breaking another law.

    Really, I just think the law is idiotic and goes to show that people in government aren't capable of putting their own personal emotions aside when it's crucial to, and that bothers me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckduckgoose View Post
    I never understood why suicide was illegal, what are they gonna do, throw your corpse in jail?

    If someone has a disease and its terminal, or if they suffer from chronic pain that can not be managed, or they are paralized then yes I believe they have the right to end their life, through suicide, assisted or not. Why should someone have to live in suffering just so their grand kids / kids / whoever can have them around for another 3 months? That is cruel. If a person wants to die, then ****ing let them, its their own choice and their own right.

    Everyone dies, it's a fact everyone needs to get over, I see absolutely no problem with someone picking their time to go.

    That it effects more than just you is a bull**** answer and a cowards answer.
    It is your life, if someone has invested themselves into your life and gotten attached to you that's their own fault, you didn't force them too. People need to learn that no matter what they're gonna lose everything they love most. It doesn't matter if it's a day from now or a year from now or even 50 years, you're always gonna lose everything that you hold near and dear.
    Get over it, grow up, and act like a ****ing mature adult. Quit you're crying, you're doing the person a favor.
    Hey you **** tard, explain how what I said is a cowards answer. I didn't give a ****ing yes or no answer, I gave a little thing to think about. Shut the **** up and stop being a little bitch.

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    It's a cowards answer because you don't want to deal with the problem, you would rather try to use it's effect on other people to keep it from being done.
    **** other people, what about the person sitting there in pain? Or what if they can't use their arm's and legs, would you condemn them to life in a broken shell of a body because you don't wanna be the one to pull the plug / don't wanna upset their family members?

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckduckgoose View Post
    It's a cowards answer because you don't want to deal with the problem, you would rather try to use it's effect on other people to keep it from being done.
    **** other people, what about the person sitting there in pain? Or what if they can't use their arm's and legs, would you condemn them to life in a broken shell of a body because you don't wanna be the one to pull the plug / don't wanna upset their family members?
    Not everyone wants to commit suicide because they have some chronic disease or terminal illness.

    It's a cowards answer because you don't want to deal with the problem
    They could be stressed out and have some problems and they feel they just want to end it all. In that instance, who is the coward?


    Every situation is unique, so dont tell me straight up that its a cowards answer.
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    If you noticed the information being talked about in this topic, it is about people who are terminally ill or paralyzed, not your regular emo gits. Even so if some mentally unstable person wants to end it all, let them. I don't view people who take their own lives as cowards, infact I view them as the opposite, it takes assloads of courage to take your own life.

    There was a story I was reading about the other day, where a lady killed herself because her and her husbands home was being foreclosed. She didn't do it cause she was a coward, she did it so her husband could use the insurance money from her death to pay the house off. She planned it for months, left a note along with her insurance policy on the kitchen table before she went through with it. That's a pretty selfless and courageous act if you ask me, killing yourself so the one you love will have a roof over their head. However if I was the husband I would have preferred my wife still alive and us homeless than her dead and the house paid off.
    But it was her decision and her right to choose her own end if she saw fit to end it all.

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    I'm no expert, but im pretty sure life insurance doesn't pay out for suicides.
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    It depends upon the insurance you have. Some insurance agencies don't have any suicide clause, while the rest have them but they expire after a couple of years, they figure most people arnt patient enough to wait one to two years to commit suicide so they are covered.

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    This is lame.Asisted suiside suld be legal.
    More lame are the ppl who force others to live a life they don't want.
    In most of this cases the condition of the patient won't chainge like a paralized person.
    Well in that case insted of respecting the man's courage to end his life ppl that don't know about his condition, about how he really feals force him in a life of myssery.

    At last i have to say that ppl that don't undestand that terminating your life is your own desision don't worth **** and suld be executed.****
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    u r so rite man cuz evry1s fgts peple lving ther lives. evry sitaton is sum1 prmtly dizabled or hurted.
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