The fall of Miss...

[indulgence]

Copyright 1988 (10:16:06 PM): I've selected SubZero to test your hack, when should I tell him to expect his "beta"
TouchTheTiny (10:17:07 PM): no need i will talk to him
Copyright 1988 (10:17:16 PM): lol ok
Copyright 1988 (10:17:20 PM): so you have his contact info
Copyright 1988 (10:17:31 PM): or contact him via pm?
TouchTheTiny (10:17:38 PM): may i ask why subzero
Copyright 1988 (10:17:50 PM): because hes long posted on gamethreat
Copyright 1988 (10:17:59 PM): and considered a respected member of the forum
TouchTheTiny (10:18:11 PM): i know he has
Copyright 1988 (10:18:11 PM): and i believe he will pose the best, most critical eye on the hacks
Copyright 1988 (10:18:25 PM): and give the most accurate representation
TouchTheTiny (10:18:34 PM): ill have to meet him
Copyright 1988 (10:18:48 PM): lol
TouchTheTiny (10:19:18 PM): btw
TouchTheTiny (10:19:31 PM): I'm stuck on something on one of my projects can u help me
TouchTheTiny (10:20:27 PM): ...
Copyright 1988 (10:20:43 PM): lol, i can try - yes
TouchTheTiny (10:21:07 PM): do u kno C++?
Copyright 1988 (10:21:15 PM): dur - quite well yes
TouchTheTiny (10:22:55 PM): ok you know intiate position?
Copyright 1988 (10:24:19 PM): intiate?
TouchTheTiny (10:24:52 PM): initiative
TouchTheTiny (10:24:53 PM): *
Copyright 1988 (10:24:59 PM): what about it
TouchTheTiny (10:26:37 PM): do you know it? srry had to retype : /
Copyright 1988 (10:27:27 PM): ive never heard of "initiative position"
TouchTheTiny (10:27:48 PM): ok well skip that then
TouchTheTiny (10:28:51 PM): another one was with my write **** on the map
Copyright 1988 (10:29:23 PM): lol
Copyright 1988 (10:29:26 PM): what about that
TouchTheTiny (10:29:39 PM): it loads a text box but when i click in it sc crashes
Copyright 1988 (10:32:11 PM): ok sc crashes...
Copyright 1988 (10:32:29 PM): let me use my psychic powers to identify the problem -- 1 moment
Copyright 1988 (10:33:47 PM): Ya - google doesn't know about initiative positions either
Copyright 1988 (10:33:50 PM): so its not just me
Copyright 1988 (10:33:57 PM): is this an invention of yours lol
Copyright 1988 (10:34:05 PM): like shared resources
TouchTheTiny (10:34:31 PM): no
TouchTheTiny (10:34:35 PM): int pos
TouchTheTiny (10:35:27 PM): thats y too when i say it crashes u ask questions like to view the source or why
TouchTheTiny (10:35:32 PM): but anyway i knew u would be something like this
TouchTheTiny (10:35:49 PM): and the shared resources is different from wha i said and is not going smoothly
TouchTheTiny (10:36:04 PM): basically it jus includes all the current hacks out there and few more
Copyright 1988 (10:36:15 PM): lol
TouchTheTiny (10:36:25 PM): in the end probably the shared crap, and some of the other stuff wont be included
Copyright 1988 (10:36:27 PM): thats nothing like what you promised
Copyright 1988 (10:36:37 PM): you said ALL hacks would work
TouchTheTiny (10:36:38 PM): first i didnt promise
Copyright 1988 (10:36:41 PM): mineral hack included
TouchTheTiny (10:36:45 PM): LOL
Copyright 1988 (10:36:47 PM): that was our bet
TouchTheTiny (10:36:52 PM): mineral hack?
TouchTheTiny (10:36:56 PM): i dont have no mineral hack
Copyright 1988 (10:37:02 PM): uh
TouchTheTiny (10:37:23 PM): s
Copyright 1988 (10:37:27 PM): TouchTheTiny (1:55:31 PM): Will you like to make a bet? When you try it out and find that its not a trojan and that everything works you step down as administrator, apoligize to me and comment that you were wrong. I then get your spot

Copyright 1988 (10:37:35 PM): note that EVERYTHING works
TouchTheTiny (10:37:44 PM): i didnt say mineral hack
Copyright 1988 (10:37:44 PM): since you are obviously going to lose that bet
Copyright 1988 (10:37:48 PM): why not step down now
Copyright 1988 (10:37:52 PM): well shared resources is in there
TouchTheTiny (10:38:04 PM): not shared
TouchTheTiny (10:38:07 PM): exchanged
TouchTheTiny (10:38:21 PM): but its like mineral hack
TouchTheTiny (10:38:53 PM): anyway what it will 100% include is
Copyright 1988 (10:39:06 PM): Can we expect mineral hack/choose more then 12 units/universal host or anything like that?
This will not be released to the public. Merely for the sake of battle.net. People who know what they are doing and are programmers and that I can trust will obtain it. Redrum, overflow, dt etc.
Copyright 1988 (10:39:13 PM): that implies you have a mineral hack
TouchTheTiny (10:39:22 PM): misunderstanding
Copyright 1988 (10:39:23 PM): and are going to give it to redrum overflow and dt
Copyright 1988 (10:39:28 PM): -oh really
Copyright 1988 (10:39:34 PM): well why dont you make a post - and clear it up
Copyright 1988 (10:39:49 PM): because a lot of ppl (everyone -- exccept you of course) misunderstood
TouchTheTiny (10:39:54 PM): nope
Copyright 1988 (10:40:00 PM): and you CANT exchange minerals
TouchTheTiny (10:40:09 PM): im learning that more and more
TouchTheTiny (10:40:13 PM): but anything is possiable
Copyright 1988 (10:40:17 PM): really - you learning that
Copyright 1988 (10:40:20 PM): well you know
Copyright 1988 (10:40:25 PM): if shared resources doesnt work
Copyright 1988 (10:40:27 PM): you lose the bet
Copyright 1988 (10:40:29 PM): dont you?
Copyright 1988 (10:40:45 PM): at which point ip subnet mask bans will be implemented
Copyright 1988 (10:40:53 PM): and you.laughingstock = true;
Copyright 1988 (10:41:32 PM): now - why dont you make a post
Copyright 1988 (10:41:36 PM): admitting you cant really hack
Copyright 1988 (10:41:46 PM): and "Miss Big Mac Hacks" was all a big joke
Copyright 1988 (10:41:49 PM): and you wont get banned
TouchTheTiny (10:41:50 PM): nope it wasnt in it
Copyright 1988 (10:42:15 PM): what wasnt in it?
Copyright 1988 (10:42:23 PM): Shared resources hack was listed
Copyright 1988 (10:42:26 PM): i have the page cached
Copyright 1988 (10:42:46 PM): so do redrum, overflow, drakken, dt, and thetempest
TouchTheTiny (10:43:00 PM): i said that everything works
TouchTheTiny (10:43:05 PM): i never said which hacks included
Copyright 1988 (10:43:28 PM): LOL
Copyright 1988 (10:43:30 PM): yes you did
TouchTheTiny (10:43:35 PM): TouchTheTiny (1:55:31 PM): Will you like to make a bet? When you try it out and find that its not a trojan and that everything works you step down as administrator, apoligize to me and comment that you were wrong. I then get your spot
TouchTheTiny (10:43:42 PM): can u please read me the part that says which
TouchTheTiny (10:43:47 PM): i said everything
Copyright 1988 (10:44:01 PM): TouchTheTiny (1:55:31 PM): Will you like to make a bet? When you try it out and find that its not a trojan and that everything works you step down as administrator, apoligize to me and comment that you were wrong. I then get your spot
TouchTheTiny (10:44:15 PM): i didnt say everything i mentioned on the post OR everything the hack WILL include
Copyright 1988 (10:44:16 PM): you just got SERVED
TouchTheTiny (10:44:21 PM): im talking about what the hack will include
Copyright 1988 (10:44:22 PM): lol
TouchTheTiny (10:44:23 PM): owned :-)
Copyright 1988 (10:44:29 PM): negative GI
TouchTheTiny (10:44:39 PM): well its true fact
TouchTheTiny (10:44:43 PM): srry u lost that 1
Copyright 1988 (10:44:46 PM): Ill tell you what
Copyright 1988 (10:44:48 PM): ill put up a poll
Copyright 1988 (10:44:54 PM): and see what ppl on gamethreat and bwhacks think
Copyright 1988 (10:45:00 PM): was meant/implied
Copyright 1988 (10:45:12 PM): You just got served :-) bitch
TouchTheTiny (10:45:13 PM): i dont care what they think
TouchTheTiny (10:45:21 PM): i didnt give full details
TouchTheTiny (10:45:24 PM): or 100%
TouchTheTiny (10:45:27 PM): jus speculations
TouchTheTiny (10:45:31 PM): so u cant even :-)
Copyright 1988 (10:45:41 PM): uh
Copyright 1988 (10:47:09 PM): well lets see
Copyright 1988 (10:47:14 PM): you listed all those features
Copyright 1988 (10:47:19 PM): and said to be released on July 31st
Copyright 1988 (10:47:24 PM): and ALL will be 100% working
Copyright 1988 (10:47:42 PM): the mineral hack i might be able to dismiss - since it wasnt included in release
Copyright 1988 (10:47:44 PM): notes
Copyright 1988 (10:47:53 PM): but you blatantly list shared resources
TouchTheTiny (10:48:35 PM): ones that will be 100% on it is maphack, sniper mode maphack, change colors, minimap ping, name spoofer, message spoofer, spoof buildings and units, spoof size resolution hack, able to ip ban, config computer ai race changer, kick players in game, and all the automated stuff all the others are maybe or probably no
Copyright 1988 (10:49:03 PM): lol
Copyright 1988 (10:49:06 PM): i have a q
TouchTheTiny (10:49:12 PM): omfg
Copyright 1988 (10:49:14 PM): since you can only get ips when they download the map
Copyright 1988 (10:49:23 PM): what happens if a player joins thats "ip banned"
Copyright 1988 (10:49:26 PM): and already has the map
Copyright 1988 (10:49:34 PM): then u wont have his omg ip
TouchTheTiny (10:49:46 PM): wtf
TouchTheTiny (10:49:48 PM): ok
TouchTheTiny (10:49:50 PM): so u ip ban him
TouchTheTiny (10:49:52 PM): he joins back
TouchTheTiny (10:49:58 PM): ?
Copyright 1988 (10:50:02 PM): ya
Copyright 1988 (10:50:06 PM): say he already has the map
TouchTheTiny (10:50:11 PM): ko
TouchTheTiny (10:50:12 PM): ok*
Copyright 1988 (10:50:13 PM): how do you ip ban him in the first place
TouchTheTiny (10:50:58 PM): you can do it without my program
TouchTheTiny (10:51:12 PM): download some program that will manage incoming and outgoing
TouchTheTiny (10:51:19 PM): connections
Copyright 1988 (10:51:27 PM): LOL
TouchTheTiny (10:51:27 PM): basically all networked connectio-ns
Copyright 1988 (10:51:50 PM): So I'll tell you what
Copyright 1988 (10:51:52 PM): to avoid the ban
Copyright 1988 (10:51:53 PM): you can post
Copyright 1988 (10:51:56 PM): clarifying yourself
Copyright 1988 (10:52:00 PM): and what hacks actually work
TouchTheTiny (10:52:03 PM): lmao
TouchTheTiny (10:52:18 PM): oh no ill get banned from bwhacks LOL i dun give a **** boo hoo
Copyright 1988 (10:52:26 PM): lol
TouchTheTiny (10:54:16 PM): copy and paste the bet thing again im using it for a sec
Copyright 1988 (10:56:15 PM): TouchTheTiny (1:55:31 PM): Will you like to make a bet? When you try it out and find that its not a trojan and that everything works you step down as administrator, apoligize to me and comment that you were wrong. I then get your spot
TouchTheTiny (11:01:09 PM): LMAO
TouchTheTiny (11:01:19 PM): IM ON MODERATOR VIEW
TouchTheTiny (11:01:21 PM): rofl
TouchTheTiny signed off at 11:03:21 PM.

Several things are interesting in this conversation.... She thinks that our bet (for me to step down as admin and her to step in) in which she said EVERYTHING would work -- means that everything the "hack she releases" will include (which could just be a namespoofer and shed be right) instead of EVERYTHING SHE LISTED IN MISS' BIG MAC HACK.... This is where we digress -- I feel that it could easily be put to a vote here -- she doesnt (cant imagine why)

Now, I am able to dismiss her mineral hack claim that she OBVIOUSLY made -- since it wasn't included in the public hack release (finally noobs can be satisfied that she was lying) But the shared resources hack was OBVIOUSLY listed in the Miss Big Mac Hacks thread.... And now she is just dismissing it? I placed her on moderator review so she cant EDIT that post/topic and that will be the only thing i encourage mods/admins to prevent...

The reason for this poll is to gauge you, the adoring public's view on the matter -- and it will be taken into consideration because im a democratic kinda guy

[Fallen]

Copyright 1988 (10:39:06 PM): Can we expect mineral hack/choose more then 12 units/universal host or anything like that?
This will not be released to the public. Merely for the sake of battle.net. People who know what they are doing and are programmers and that I can trust will obtain it. Redrum, overflow, dt etc

Breaks my heart when people are treated differently, only high powers get hacks, while the others like us have to settle with the normal hacks, the so-original and old hacks. This makes me hate hack sites. But since miss said this I guess i have to go to the "Miss is lying" side <_<

[jonthepyro]

i knew that she was lying about alot of it and wasnt gunna include alot of the things listed
haha moderator review
btw she hasnt posted on bwhacks in a couple days..she used to post everyday..

btw check it out lol

invincible hp/255+65535 armor and shield/65535 dmg/yamato attack/cool mini pic of probe.
hahahah :D

[Fallen]

Originally posted by jonthepyro@Jul 5 2004, 03:57 AM
i knew that she was lying about alot of it and wasnt gunna include alot of the things listed
haha moderator review
btw she hasnt posted on bwhacks in a couple days..she used to post everyday..

btw check it out lol

invincible hp/255+65535 armor and shield/65535 dmg/yamato attack/cool mini pic of probe.
hahahah&nbsp; :D

Omg Jon release that hack ! lol just playin i must say that screenshot looks a little bit more believable then indulgences. No offense ;)

[indulgence]

More believable, its hugely pixalated and the health bar is too large -- should have left it normal sized. Plus - you didnt hover the dmg - so we cant see the damage -- nice ss though. That hack roxors the coxors.

I removed the image because my intent wasnt to prove i made a hack but to disprove the notion of screenshots as valid hack proof. Also, I don't want this topic covering the notion of that probe and instead focus on the issue at hand :P

Fallen:
The fact that she said those hacks exist (sorry: she IMPLIES those hacks exist she makes no guarantee -- *note sarcasm*) and then in that convo states that she doesn't have or know how to make a mineral hack, selection hack, or the like and that I simply made an assumption that she had them. She also says that it is *possiable* though to make a mineral hack... But how, -- she amazingly left it out (because its not *possiable*)

Also, she states that most of the hacks she listed (despite saying that by July 31st they would *ALL* work *100%*) were going to be dropped because she in fact couldnt get them to work...

Another amazing fact is that onscreen note system - which is 25% WORKING according to her post in Big Miss Big Mac Hacks (page 5 i think) she actually asks me for help because the "textboxes on screen crash when she clicks in them" -- yet she gives me no info but that and expects me to diagnose a problem... Then goes on a rant stating that "when i say it crashes u ask questions like to view the source or why" -- when if you note I never ask to see the source -- But really, how does she expect me to tell her whats wrong with that broad vague error... NOT only did i not ask to see source I have no desire to, but she twists the truth to make it seem like I do... Facts speak for themselves.

I would like to get your thoughts on this statement though:

TouchTheTiny (1:55:31 PM): Will you like to make a bet? When you try it out and find that its not a trojan and that everything works you step down as administrator, apoligize to me and comment that you were wrong. I then get your spot

Do you think that she meant/implied/believed in that bet that *everything* listed in Big Miss' Big Mac Hacks was part of the bet (as I believe she did) or - now that she sees most of that ****s *impossiable* that shes trying to twist facts again?

[white[peepz]]

she deserves a ip ban for lyin about the agreement made in the bet and lyin about the hack

[Fallen]

Yes i do believe that she meant everything listed in Big Miss' Big Mac Hacks. And yes she is trying to twist the facts. But i do not believe that she should be ipbanned from bwhacks.com. Yeah she told us that all these great hacks were coming, and lied to us. But i believe that everyone deserves a second chance. But she does need to admit she lost the bet.

[jonthepyro]

lol @ my ss
it took like 20 min to make

i think as long as miss releases a hack that isnt out like something new than we should give her some kindof credit and vote to see if she stay or not. it has to be a good one like all the dlls out now and than some.
(map hack,spoofer, colorhack,lag defender, map dl status, unit suicide. at least those idc if the "disable warning patch" isnt there, tho it does come in handy, and she has to have alot of more good things added too)

[unseenkilla_29]

i knew she was lying about most of those hack claims, especially the shared resources. miss if ur so concerned about the sake of b.net then y r u releasing a "kick players from game" hack? it will turn 1.11 into what 1.10 was, whenever someone with that hack was about to lose they would use that hack and drop a player that earned a win just so that they wouldnt lose. y not have a selection hack in its place? that isnt much worse than map hack. and it wouldnt be a problem for u to release since u claim to already have it.

[SubZero]

for the record, no one contacted me :P

[jonthepyro]

i agree w/ unseenkilla_29

[Gantznaught]

lets see wat happens on the 31st...

[B)P]

i think we should give her the time before we flame...

[-Crispi-]

Originally posted by unseenkilla_29@Jul 5 2004, 05:40 AM
i knew she was lying about most of those hack claims, especially the shared resources. miss if ur so concerned about the sake of b.net then y r u releasing a "kick players from game" hack? it will turn 1.11 into what 1.10 was, whenever someone with that hack was about to lose they would use that hack and drop a player that earned a win just so that they wouldnt lose. y not have a selection hack in its place? that isnt much worse than map hack. and it wouldnt be a problem for u to release since u claim to already have it.

Agreed.. :(

[jonthepyro]

ya lets just wait till july 31 and find out

plus havent u realized miss stopped postin lately..

[SHADOMONKEY]

ill say shes lying. but we shall not judge her on what the conversation said but what the hack speaks and we will know if she is telling the truth. :D

[indulgence]

I really can't understand your belief that she will deliver anything but hacks ripped off of those from me, drakken, overflow, bulk, dt, et al....

She has proven nothing - and in her conversations she presents the antithesis of what she presents in her posts. Typical noob wanting attention and adoration from the rest of the noob world. When she releases nothing new - you will remember these words

And if you read her convo with me -- she admits that basically the only things she has working/has a chance at making work - are hacks that are already out

[el-camino-ss]

and I still wonder is SHE a SHE?

[indulgence]

Originally posted by el-camino-ss@Jul 5 2004, 08:01 PM
and I still wonder is SHE a SHE?

Well at first 'she' agreed to let me call her to verify even that fact.... however, 'she' was leaving so i would have to wait till 'she' got back to call 'her' --

However, two days later 'she' reneged on that agreement and said 'she' didn't need to prove 'her'self to anyone...

Apparently he couldn't find a chick to take the call... When even your mom and/or sister turn you down to take a call and pretend to be you -- you know you live a sad existence!

[Fallen]

Originally posted by indulgence@Jul 5 2004, 10:12 PM
Apparently he couldn't find a chick to take the call... When even your mom and/or sister turn you down to take a call and pretend to be you -- you know you live a sad existence!

Thens whos the hot chick in his avatar